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The translation is very good and leaves cipher to be desired. Guénon pulls from a vast range of traditions, has a very impress
This work is far from an easy read. There isn't much of a reason to read it if one intends on rushing through it. I mostly read it i chapter a solar day, sometimes two, and then digest. Guénon's prose is fairly typical of the French writing style and thus you must be able to tolerate long run on sentences to enjoy reading the piece of work without information technology feeling like as well much of a job.The translation is very proficient and leaves nothing to be desired. Guénon pulls from a vast range of traditions, has a very impressive grasp of how they fit together and his assay is astounding. It's even more then when one thinks about him writing this in 1945 and how "prophetic" his insight has proved itself to exist when reading it through the "lenses" of today'south world.
His critique of "scientism" is spot on and his predictions apropos this "scientistic" philosophy take worked themselves out to this day in the very ways he describes. I constitute these chapters particularly interesting since it felt like I was reading a mod critic hither and now in 2015.
I emphatically recommend this work.
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سنتگرایی در معنای اصیلش به واقع یک دین است. یک جهانبینی کامل که توضیح بسیاری از مشکلات نو و تشریح کیفیات سنت را بهتر از هر تلاش دیگری در خود دارد. حتی نهادهای کلاسیک ادیان به دلیل عدم برخورد نزدیک با جهان نو و به طور مشخصتر مساله پیچیده غرب فکری، به خوبی سنتگرایی جوابگوی مشکلات اخیر نیستند....
سنتگرایی مادامی که از شاخههای دم دستی و غالبا نه چندان آبدار دست چندمی تککتابی و به قول گنون سنتجو خوانده میشود اندیشه ای بلاخره بار دوم خواندن کتاب سیطره کمیت و علائم آخرزمان رنه گنون تمام شد.
سنتگرایی در معنای اصیلش به واقع یک دین است. یک جهانبینی کامل که توضیح بسیاری از مشکلات نو و تشریح کیفیات سنت را بهتر از هر تلاش دیگری در خود دارد. حتی نهادهای کلاسیک ادیان به دلیل عدم برخورد نزدیک با جهان نو و به طور مشخصتر مساله پیچیده غرب فکری، به خوبی سنتگرایی جوابگوی مشکلات اخیر نیستند....
سنتگرایی مادامی که از شاخههای دم دستی و غالبا نه چندان آبدار دست چندمی تککتابی و به قول گنون سنتجو خوانده میشود اندیشه ای سخت مشکوک و تردیدپذیر است؛ درست به همان اندازه که خواندن از تنههای تنومندی مانند گنون دلپذیر.
پیش از خواندن گنون، حتی مقالات گاهبهگاه شوان نمیتوانست تصویری روشن و البته احترامبرانگیز از سنتگرایی را این چنین برای م ایجاد کند. حالا سرچشمه بسیاری از اندیشههای انتقادی اصیل داخلی و افتراق بسیاری از اندیشههای دست دوم داخلی را بهتر میفهمم....
شاید اگر سنتگرایی به معنای دقیقتر مورد نظر خود گنون یعنی دینمداری به نقد و بررسی عالمان آگاه نهادهای رسمی دین هم درآید نتیجه راهگشاتر از امروز باشد....
خواندن کتاب سیطره کمیت و علائم آخرزمان رنه گنون - که نامش برای غیرمطلعین سخت فریبناک است - را به همه علاقهمندان فلسفه، فلسفه غرب، حکمت، تاریخ، تاریخ ادیان، مطالعات تطبیقی و حتی آنها که از خواندن یک متن پیوسته استخواندار لذت میبرند توصیه میکنم.
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Truly nothing short of a masterpiece.
I cannot help you past stating annihilation on the bailiwick matter, for fear of limiting the breadth and spectrum of this book. It's contents are astonishingly summarized in it's own title.
I apologize before hand for the lack of loftier standard of choice of words in the comi
To this very 24-hour interval, every single time I render to this volume, the overwhelming feeling of depth, intellect, insight, wisdom, and knowledge give me enough fuel to go on for days and sometimes weeks.Truly nothing short of a masterpiece.
I cannot assist yous past stating anything on the discipline matter, for fright of limiting the breadth and spectrum of this book. It's contents are astonishingly summarized in it's own title.
I apologize before hand for the lack of high standard of option of words in the coming sentence, but I have received more "mental hard-ons" from this book that I care to count. Hardly can I land many pivotal moments in my life that are landmarks to which I can say: before this pivot I was a sure way and after information technology I am some other. This volume, and René 'due south work in full general, easily institute several of those pivots.
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"Le "Règne de la Quantité" a été épuisé avec une rapidité qui thou'a surpris"
"The Reign of Quantity" has been exhausted with a speed that surprised me"
- Guénon, Correspondance with A.K. Coomaraswamy - Cairo, 5 february 1946
"Le "Règne de la Quantité" a été épuisé avec une rapidité qui m'a surpris"
"The Reign of Quantity" has been exhausted with a speed that surprised me"
- Guénon, Correspondance with A.K. Coomaraswamy - Cairo, five feb 1946
Earlier I read information technology, I read the Wikipedia page and learned that it actually sold quite well upon release, which is absolutely bizarre to me because information technology's fundamentally incompatible with about all modernistic soapbox on social/evolution
A delightfully unbound philosophical meandering about the loss of tradition in its diverse manifestations equally modernity has took concur of our lodge. Covering magic, the turn down of spirituality, and the corresponding ascension of industry, this piece is wildly unconforming.Earlier I read it, I read the Wikipedia page and learned that it actually sold quite well upon release, which is absolutely bizarre to me because information technology's fundamentally incompatible with near all mod discourse on social/developmental theory. The fact that is was well-received all the same disappeared among academics is well-nigh haunting given the topics it deals with.
Rene Guenon is, unfortunately, a genius, a wildly sane man in insane times that have only gotten worse. Every bit the reign of quantity has further solidified itself, information technology does seem indeed that the globe is moving towards the dissolution of time and coming to a sort of 'terminate' and 'restart' simultaneously.
My feelings on the specifics of his analysis are mixed, of course, simply this volume will make you reconsider your values, whatever they are, even if you already agree with the author.
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Reading "The Reign of Quantity and the Signs of the Times," arguably Guénon'south great Traditionalist statement (others say it's other books- these folks are squabblers), does indeed shed some light on this question of Guénon's twenty-first century reception. From previous readings, I understood that Evola emphasized activeness in this earth, where Guénon preached something closer to withdrawal- Evola the warrior-priest (wannabe) vs Guénon the priest (wannabe, simply closer than Evola got to his beau ideal). Evola got involved in fascism, recruited for the SS, and inspired terrorists during the Years of Lead; Guénon fucked off to Cairo for the war years and became a Sufi mystic. I likewise knew that Evola explicitly racialized Traditionalism much more than did Guénon, making Aryans the bearers of the sacred Tradition and Jews it's traducer.
What I didn't know before reading a full length Guénon piece of work was how fucking boring he was. I wouldn't call Evola an heady author. He would go on at length about all sorts of nonsense in "Revolt," his later work amounts to edgy cocky-assistance, and he was no stranger to pedantry. But Guénon puts him in the shade, pedantry-wise, and does and then in plodding, Aristotelian writing. Information technology's worth remembering Guénon came out of the French right-fly Cosmic milieu of his time, and Thomism — LARPing Thomas Aquinas'south awarding of Aristotelian thought to Christianity, just without the actual vital lived belief Aquinas brought to the motion picture — was large stuff with that crowd. Every term — quality, quantity, time, space, science, craft, art, etc etc — needs to be defined and redefined considering our modern earth is and then fallen that nosotros don't know what terms mean anymore… merely what Guénon by and large ways in his redefinition is "the usual definition, merely excluding stuff that aesthetically displeases me."
The bones point of the volume is that we are at present in an "historic period of quantity," where modernity and egalitarianism have fabricated everything from personalities to consumer goods and then standardized that nothing has unique qualities anymore. The Tradition — the i path to enlightenment handed down the ages from fourth dimension immemorial to select bands of initiates — is the just thing that tin can salve us from this fate, but probably not until the fourth dimension bike (borrowed from Hinduism) cycles downwards through this vulgar historic period and back to a golden historic period of spirituality and quality.
This reminds me of zip so much, oddly enough, as something in the works of Orson Scott Carte du jour. In Card's "Alvin Maker" series, the big enemy of the main character, Alvin, a mage based on Mormon founder Joseph Smith, is no less than the element of water. Alvin brings things together and raises them to their essences- water submerges and smooths everything out into sameness. Carte du jour relates how water constantly tries to kill Alvin, through drowning, waterborne disease, etc. But… like… Alvin is seventy-odd percent water! If water wants to kill him, why don't his cells but exercise the human action?! The early Alvin Maker books are amid Card's meliorate books before he started to suck/became more of an asshole, just you can see the lack of thoughtfulness and mental balance that helped bring Card low. You need h2o, along with the other 3 elements. You lot need entropy and even death for a balanced organisation where things abound.
Guénon is a little smarter than Card and so doesn't come up out and say quantity is unimportant or bad in and of itself. It'southward only how modernity substitutes quantity for quality that is at issue. All the same- as far equally I'm concerned, quantity is a quality all its ain. God favors the large battalions, equally Voltaire put it. A fine (fewer molecules) betoken pierces better than a dull (more molecules) ane. Quantitative changes make quality differences.
Blah blah, etc etc… this is the sort of talk nosotros're reduced to when dealing with Guénon, idiotic generalities dressed upwardly in erudite wearing apparel and put in the service of elitism. Every bit I read, I found myself casting around for points of involvement and finding very few. I I did discover was the translator of this work, Lord Northbourne, who did his best with what was doubtless highly persnickety French. Northbourne was an Olympic medalist in rowing and the inventor of the phrase "organic farming" along with being a Traditionalist translator! If y'all're wondering, the Northbourne lordship goes back to the 1790s when some relative was a bureaucrat/fundraiser for the king'southward wars, not the mists of time, only that's Traditionalism for you. All in all, a shit book, probably "better" than Evola — smarter, less racist — merely duller. *'
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By the time you get to the finish of the book you have moved from the cultural implications to the more spiritual and eschatological implications, and like a truthful prophetic voice he does not requite us exact dates, but he does describe the nature of sure turning-points and the steps equally nosotros move toward the end of the world, which he in an ironic twist calls it the end of illusions and rectification or restoration of the Divine Order, thereby showing that things will non be just left in dissolution and devastation but rather that evils apparent triumph will just be that: Apparent, thereby showing in deep philosophical idea and using all the wisdom traditions the triumph of Good over Evil at all levels.
While I cannot recommend this book for anybody because of its depth, I desire to recommend information technology to anybody in part to help those who want to be agents of Restoration and the Transcendent to not fall into deception nor despair, despite the 60 minutes nosotros are in, once again this volume was written in 1945, 70 Years has passed, looking at our civilisation today the volume should be renamed, "Here's Why Nosotros Are Here, Hither is How We Got Here, and How To Get Out of It"
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Definitely, this volume is like a further reading or caption on Sayyid Naquīb Al Attās' view on modernistic
From the offset until the terminate, this book is very intense and intellectually challenging. Non typical kind of book that only gives you information simply information technology makes you call up critically virtually what happen to u.s.a. as a existence, our purposes and problems in our time (just as he said about his volume The Crisis of the Modern World). Yup, he definitely succeeds in changing my view on how to run into the world.Definitely, this volume is like a farther reading or explanation on Sayyid Naquīb Al Attās' view on mod world and his metaphysics is somewhat aforementioned equally the Sufis view (equally far as I concerned).
May Allāh bless Sidi René Guénon or Sidi Abdul Wāhid Yahyā. Bisirr Al Fātihah.
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At various points throughout numerous debates with mr. Eric, I still pull this text off the shelf.
My favorite concept learned from this book is that of svadharma And I accept cited it in various comp lit courses since!
If this is your commencement book of Guenon (like me), set up yourself for the most eye-opening, life-changing and questions-answering affair you lot ever read!
Despite Guenon's honesty and clarity, this is non an easy fast reading book. It took me more than a calendar month to terminate its twoscore capacity (each chapter contains simply 5 pages) so i tin can digest the treasure out of each chapter and apply information technology to the world around me.
Information technology's seems that all what i knew and what i read before was a preparation for this work.If this is your outset book of Guenon (like me), gear up yourself for the about eye-opening, life-irresolute and questions-answering matter yous always read!
Despite Guenon'southward honesty and clarity, this is non an like shooting fish in a barrel fast reading book. Information technology took me more than a month to end its 40 chapters (each affiliate contains simply 5 pages) and then i can digest the treasure out of each affiliate and employ it to the world around me.
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It reads really fresh, like something from a modern writer, which makes the book fifty-fifty more phenomenal considering it was written 65 years ago.
René Guénon is truly a prophet of modern times. A
Fascinating and profound book, I would reccomend this to anyone confused near the modern world and their personal place in it. Information technology really does reply the important questions, like "Where do nosotros come from?" or "Where are we going correct now?" and, of course, the all-time favorite "What the hell is going on?".It reads really fresh, like something from a modern author, which makes the book even more than astounding because information technology was written 65 years ago.
René Guénon is truly a prophet of mod times. A must-read for everyone.
For those who already did read the volume I would like to propose an extension of René Guénon'southward argument into modern time and into the closest time to come. If y'all did not read the volume yet I strongly recommend that y'all do and so come back to this comment.
(view spoiler)[ We are currently in the 'Metallic' historic period. Current industry is increasingly focusing on the not-ferrous metals, due east.chiliad.: Tin can we make a prediction about the future though? There are no farther metals in the periodic table - that is, unless nosotros learn to work with radioactive material (which is highly improbable due to its inherent 'unstability'). Which means that we accept to escape into the virtual domain of 1's and 0's - of the purest quantity there is. Which is why I propose that the side by side material in this list is quantity itself, that is, numbers - 1'southward and 0's of estimator code. Therefore I propose that nosotros call this next stage of human development Digitalism. I see 'Digitalism' to be the next logical step in the current process of material dissolution. Our money is already evaporating into digital information, and there are fifty-fifty purely digital money in the form of cryptocurrencies. Perhaps the Antichrist, which is the being that will signify the coming of the 'end of times' (signs of which are described in the book) is going to exist a purely virtual being? It seems but logical given that his position at the very edge of material manifestation would leave very niggling reality to his 'graphic symbol', that can just be described as 'ephemeral' and as shut to existence unreal as possible.
René Guénon clearly presents the sequence of 'solidification' of industrial materials (I mostly think in terms of "what do nosotros build houses with?") across time:
- Plant affair, dirt
- Wood
- Stone
- Metal
- Electric cars, the bulk of which is the bombardment - consisting of such metals;
- Solar panels & wind turbines which nosotros beloved so dearly today likewise involve 'modernistic' metals;
- Craze over 'Smart' devices, every single one of which requires a circuit board.
And this is the 'bleeding border' of our modern industry, which means that these particular sectors will merely abound with time.
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He maintains that the materialist scientism inaugurated by Desc
While Guenon is express in certain ways, and has a few idiosyncratic interpretations of things, he is nonetheless a fantastic source for comparative religion and mythology. This volume is his major assail on materialism and the bottom 'spiritism' of the parapsychological earth, which he identifies as a purely psychic, junior ("infernal") source of free energy, removed every bit about as can be possible from the true source of spirit, the divine.He maintains that the materialist scientism inaugurated by Descartes, culminating in the "Reign of Quantity" which can be rather readily described in the world around us today, has already largely run its form, yet a "render to tradition" volition non happen. Instead, the development of a false, "counter-tradition" will take identify that will fix the stage for the final drama of the age, and and so in a turn of events that is non comprehensible to us profane, who are trapped within the understanding of things available to the states in this age (the Kali Yuga), there will be a final "rectification" and the entire wheel of ages will begin again, consummate with its own aureate age to start out with.
In some parts Guenon is fifty-fifty accelerationist, describing how this "quantizing" process of modernity will speed upwards and this will speed up the reckoning of time itself, the tempo of everything will advance until a point at which the cycle shifts, and the "quality" of time, seen in the cyclical dance and shifting emotionality of seasons and lunar cycles, reasserts itself. The book is a fleck dry and repetitive, but there'south nevertheless enough of interesting things in it. I personally think the piffling esoteric asides and notes are well worth the admission cost of the sometimes dreary Traditionalist prose.
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That nosotros are living at the final stop of the Peachy Cycle he had no doubt. Certainly his ideas have undermined my sense of 'progress' and 'civilisation' absorbed over many decades.
This is not an easy book to read because most chapters crave careful cons This is René Guénon's most remarkable piece of work, amongst many, for the utter clarity with which he develops his theme. His description of the descent from quality to quantity is set out in 40 capacity each building on what has been established before.
That nosotros are living at the final end of the Great Cycle he had no uncertainty. Certainly his ideas have undermined my sense of 'progress' and 'civilization' absorbed over many decades.
This is not an easy book to read because most chapters require careful consideration and concentration. But the ideas menstruum lucidly. By the terminate, the world you perceive when yous finish the volume is different to the one when you started. That is amazing.
His viewpoints on metals and coin are quite revelatory. What would he accept fabricated of AI and cryptocurrencies? A step fifty-fifty deeper into a non-spiritual and therefore utterly transient illusion, I await.
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Not an easy book to read by whatsoever measure, but 'you get what y'all pay for' (or more accurately, you take to work difficult for enlightenment of this level). If you can really understand what Guénon is saying here, you won't be able to view the globe the same once more afterward. The incessant (and ultimately futile), largel
Really i of the most profound books I've ever read. A very small percentage of humanity is capable of agreement what Guénon is proverb hither. But so he admits this from the kickoff.Not an easy book to read by whatsoever measure out, but 'you go what you pay for' (or more accurately, you have to work hard for enlightenment of this level). If y'all can really sympathize what Guénon is maxim hither, y'all won't exist able to view the world the aforementioned once again afterward. The ceaseless (and ultimately futile), largely peak-down, button toward the polar farthermost of quantity (as opposed to quality) is apparent everywhere in our modern world.
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Few books take made such an bear on on my thinking, and I think this one succeeds through its lucid mode and the gradual progression of its argument. It slowly builds the case for traditional symbolism stone past stone until i arrives at a stunning (though incomplete) motion picture of our modernistic situation.
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Few books have made such an touch on on my thinking, and I retrieve this 1 succeeds through its lucid style and the gradual progression of its argument. It slowly builds the case for traditional symbolism stone past stone until one arrives at a stunning (though incomplete) picture of our modern situation.
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É um livro que se lê exatamente como essas tendências baratas new-age apesar de ser exatamente contra isso que foi escrito.
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